Hey guys i thought id start this Project log rolling seeing as some revived an old project. Instead of carrying on from a project log used for another project which i have put on hold i decided to start this so everyone knows that all that i post in this thread is related to this mod. First off i would like to say that this is my first mod that i will be working on, apart from the odd bit of dremel action on other chassis's

Mod Premise:

A lot of people that start mods have a clear theme that is normally visually represented through the mod, be it from the smallest detail or the case as a whole. My theme however is slightly more different and rest firmly within the Hardware side of things. I want a small custom case that can house a Mini-ITX gaming system. Sadly within the SFF community, which tends to be quite a mod enthusiastic sub culture there are no cases out there that can accomodate what i want, let alone looking the part aswell.

I know i will alienate quite a lot of the Mini-ITX enthusiats out there as with previous mini-itx mods they have been dead small fitting inside Toasters, Windows XP Box or in a case made out of Knex. Whilst all of these mods have inspired me to have a small more compact PC there are just so many limitations that stop a mini-itx gaming system. That said, it doesnt mean it cannot be done, and further more cannot be quiet either.


The Design:

Over the past months this mod has gone through various different design stages, yet they all have one thing in common and that is the perforated front grill which will take up the majority of the front. This will be very much akin to the Lian Li and Apple G5 case style. I have also grown fond of it as it is practical as its stylish if used correctly and also ideal for cooling (especialliy if the whole front of the case is going to be backed by a Dual 120mm Radiator).







The case will be using a ATX power supply to accomodate for the power consumption of high end graphics cards, i have been asked if this is a waste of space and the short answer would be no. With the ATX PSU removed i only shorten the height of the case by about 5mm. This is due to the depth of the case being determined by the length of the graphics card and the Radiator and Fans. The Width of the case is determined by the height of the graphics card with a watercooling block attached. The Height of the case is determined primarily by the height of the radiator and also the Slimline slot loading optical drive. So i decided to stick with the ATX PSU as if i go for more powerful upgrades further down the line all i have to do is buy an off the shelf PSU rather then wait around for a SFF PSU to be released that can power the system.

Aswell as this, the case will also accomodate 4 Hard Drives that will be in the PC as i need a lot of storage. these will be interfaced via Sata2 connections. Depending on which board i go for, the board will either have 4 Sata2 & 1 IDE or 6 Sata2. So the board is more than capable of handling this amount of Hard Drives. The hard drives will be housed in a custom made caddy that i have designed that can be removed from the case easily so there is more space for myself to tinker with things further down the line. I have also designed the caddy to make the most of the fresh air that will pumped in by the 120mm Fans that sit right next to it (as you can see in the picture below)



With this i didnt want to use the normal HDD caddy which you see in your average case which restricts airflow quite considerably. With my design i wanted it to be very minimalistic yet not so much so that it was unstable. The aluminium is used only where needed and this means that i can have large open gaps in between the hard drives which allows plenty of fresh cool air to flow over every hard drive.



As you can see from the pictures on this post, the majority of the design has been planned for, though there are still things that i am unsure about. For example im not sure which way to put the radiator, either with the barbs at the bottom where the tubing can conflict with the graphics card, or at the top where it takes space away from where i will be hiding excess cables that i dont use from my S12-600w Seasonic. This also means that i dont know where to put the HDD Caddy, it will be in the same space but could be higher or lower in the case. Luckily enough it doesnt really matter as i dont have to accomodate this too much into my design, all i have to do is make sure that there is space there for me to test which is better.


My other problem i have is the Logo. I have no idea what to have for my logo and where to put it. I dont want it to ruin the minimalistic front, though thats where i would prefer it if it can work. I was toying with the idea of doing something that Bill had done (cant remember specifically which mod it was) but he created a logo for the case which he used on the front and bent it around the front and it overlapped parts of the sides. When ive thought about the logo ive only really had one idea for the design. What do you think of when you hear the term 'Little Rascal' and i think of a Dennis the Menace type kid that caused mayhem. So i was thinking of incorporating that into the name Little Rascal where the first A would be made up of a silouette of a kid with his arms folded and his legs to make up sides of the A.

That said i am not 100% set on that. If anyone has any ideas for a logo, feel free to post them. If i like the design i will use it and of course you will be credited for the artistic work done on the logo

Also if i have enough time and money i will be modding my current Mouse and Keyboard (Logitech G7and a WolfKing/Wolfclaw Keyboard)to fit in with the theme of the mod, one of which will also accomodate the logo. Im still not sure on the extent of the modifications i will be doing to them, but it will be at the very least a respray so that they fit in with the overall colour scheme of the case, which brings me onto the colour scheme.

Visual Design:

The colour scheme of the mod is still slightly up in the air. I have a pretty firm idea of how it will be styled, which will be a mixture of either Black and Aluminium or Gun Metal and Aluminium, with a Black acrylic side panel which will only reveal the insides once the lighting on the inside is turned on. I am still unsure on whether or not to have a Acrylic Metal Mesh side window mod, so that the perforated aluminium which is so prominant on the front is continued along the side and also to the exhaust on the back.

The lights on the inside will be white, though i am not sure of how to go about getting the type of lighting i want without a load of cables running everywhere. Which is why ive been looking at EL Wire/Strips for quite some time. The reasoning here is that theyre not too bright that it makes your case appear like the holy spirit is in your case, yet not too dark that it doesnt illuminate the case enough that we can see through the window. Whatever i decide to use, the lights will be rigged to a button that will turn them on and off when i want them, and it will be next to the Power and Reset buttons which will be located on one of the side panels.

Case feet is something else im still undecided on. With the original Little Rascal mod on the v300 i was going to completely remake the feet so that it accomodated both the aluminium and the acrylic, whilst having a white LED in all the feet to illuminate them. Though im not sure if i should go with one huge footthat would go around the bottom of the case. Though i think this could be overpowering. Whatever i do i still want feet, as i can design them so that they dampen the vibrations of the case even more, let alone the HDDs and the PSU will have vibrational dampners built into their housing.

The Tools:

Since christmas has just past, i had my mum badgering me about what i wanted for christmas. There wasnt anything i really wanted so decided to get some tools that would help me along the way in creating the mod. Sadly ive just taken some photos to show you what i have, but realised that my cameras data cable is back home in Portsmouth, so i will have to upload them on Sunday.

The tools and other equipment I currently have are:

Protective Eyewear
60mm Swivel Table Vice with Anvil
4x 3.5" Spring Clamps
3pc Steel File Set
12" Heavy Duty Combination Square
Hand Rivet Gun w/75 Rivets
Dremel (though need to cutting discs) :dremel:
Foldable Workbench with another Vice
Metal Bending Brake

I will also probably get a 300w single speed Jigsaw, for cutting the aluminium, and also a electric mouse sander to make sanding that little bit easier

The Components:

Motherboard

Ive had this mod idea in my mind for quite some time, and since then some better hardware has come out since then, though the most important bit of hardware will be obviously the motherboard.

The 2 Motherboards that i am going to decide between are:

Portwells Wade 8656 LGA 775 PCI-E 16X Mini-Itx Motherboard


Or

iBases MI900 LGA775 PCI-E 16x Mini-ITX Motherboard


People will notice some problems with these boards, such as they only support upto 1066Mhz FSB and 800Mhz Memory. That doesnt bother me too much, what i would of liked extra of would be memory slots, but then ive got to remember its a Mini-ITX board so there it will be cutting corners somewhere. Though my main gripe is emulated 5.1-7.1 over 3 audio jacks, which puts my 5.1 headset out of the window unless i lose one of the channels or the mic.

One of the things with this build is that i wont be buying these components until the case is near enough completed, which i plan to be in April so i can showcase it at my clans small 24 person LAN. I am hoping with any luck that there might be a updated board, which will incorporate those changes i would like, but if not ill be happy anyway

Hard Drives

Im still somewhat undecided on which Hard Drives to go for. I am for the most part a capacity whore, so i doubt i will be having anything like Raptor drives in my system, though that might change over time.

I am looking at kitting out the 4 HDD spaces with either 750GB or 1Tb Drives. Yup you heard my correctly, that would mean i would have anywhere upto 4TB of storage in a gaming PC which is usually unheard of, let alone in a case thats roughly the size of one of my shoe boxes (size 13 feet so its big where shoeboxes are concerned). Im not sure which drives to go for, as im still having a look at reviews for a balance between overall speed and the ssssh factor that im looking for. All that i now for certain is, that these drives will not be horrible load break all the time Maxtors.

Power Supply

As the plan stands i will be using my lovely Seasonic s12-600w PSU. I love this thing, its more than powerful enough and its whisper quiet, whilst having strong rails. Though the one thing that i hate about it is the fact its got ridiculously long cables, cables that i will not use and will take up much valued space. So i might land up going for a Modular later on down the line and move this into a Media PC.

Graphics Card

I will admit it, i am a ATI fan boy. Love the cards and stand by them. Sadly at this current moment in time, they are not the top dog of the graphics world. Sadly Nvidia are, but with a nice card. I wont be going for a 8800Ultra as i have more sense than money, so im currently looking at the 8800GTX. That said the rumour mill has started churning and supposedly there will be a new set of graphics cards that will be released quite soon that will fit in with my completion date. that said if it reaches April and the new cards are only a week or 2 away, then i will wait for them and carry on using my trusty ATI x1900XTX.

It being a small machine i want the most powerful card within reason, as there is never a hope for SLI in this case, let alone i dont think i would ever use SLI.

Optical Drive

One thing i hate about big PC's are the horrible chunky oversized Optical drives, which tend to be quite loud whilst watching DVDs on. To conserve the space of the case i have opted for a Slimline Slot Loading optical drive which will interface with the motherboard via SATA2. Sadly i cant find any links for them as of yet, but i know where i used to work we were able to get them. It will be a DVD writer, though if i can find a HDDVD slimline player (not writer) and if its at a reasonable price i might be tempted to get it.

Cooling

The most important set of components in this PC besides the Motherboard. For any watercooling experts out there, once youve seen the size of this case and what i need it to do, there is only 1 choice as far as the Radiator is concerned, and that would be the Black Ice Stealth GT II. Its not overly bloated where dimensions are concerned, and thickness width and length are all at the very minimum they can be. this is a no BS radiator that isnt bigger then it has to be, which makes it 100% ideal for this project. Plus it also offers upto something like 20% better cooling then other radiators on the market.

For pump i am looking for a CPU Block & Pump combo to save on the space within the case. I am still having a gander around the net to see which would be the best for waterflow and for cooling.

With this project, i want it to be dead quiet, even when it is at full load. This means i need fans that have a very low dbA and push a lot of Air (CFM). Originally i was going to only have the 2 120mm fans on the front, but in the past few days i have decided to go for a Push Pull configuration comprising of 2x 120mm Fans on the front as intake, and a single 92mm on the rear of the case as an outtake. Ive browsed the net for quite some time and there only seems to be one type of fan for this job (though im willing to be corrected on this if there are better fans), and the fans would be SilenX's iXtrema Pros. these fans are beasts for their audible level. Their specs are as follows:

120mm Model:
-72 CFM
-14 dBA

92mm Model:
-42 CFM
-14 dBA

At full load these fans are more then adequate to cool my case, whilst reminaing whisper quiet.

Other Components

The other components arent really set in stone yet, as they dont need to be. Though for anyone that wants to know, i will be going for the fastest 4gb ram that this motherboard can accomodate for.


Anyway i shall wrap this introduction up now as ive been typing this up for quite some time now and im getting hungry.

Hope you all love the idea for the mod and are keen in keeping up with its process.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask, or if you would like any more renders.

If you like to contact me personally regarding sponsorship or just anything related to this mod feel free to PM me on here or send me an email to:
nixbroderick (at) hotmail.com

Hope to hear back from you soon, and hope all of you had a good New Year

What a great start to what should be a great mod/rig. You certainly thought this one out well friend and I'm looking forward to following it's construction.

This looks like a very wll thought and planned project. I look forward to watching your progression

btw: Note I had to edit the images you were hotlinking. Thanks!

Very nice build, I can't wait for the 9 series . The only bad thing about that radiator is that it's very flow restrictive and will drop the pressure in your system. I recommend the Black Ice Xtreme II (Not the 2), it can be found at http://www.dangerden.com/store/product. ... =85&page=1

Oh, and I would go with a modular power supply, here's why:
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/



Yet another thing, what do you use to model your case?

Thanks for the comments so far guys.

Ive hosted those images myself now Bill so should be all ok

In regards to The-X's questions. As ive said i probably most likely will go for a Modular PSU, though that will be the last component i will get as i currently have a fully working S12-600W from Seasonic.

Cheers for the link, provided some useful information. Did always wonder about the height of the Fan cutting into the height of the Heatsinks.

I use Sketchup Pro, which is now owned by Google. Lovely little program, though it can have its moments. For example when i was working on the individual holes for the perforated front, it slowed to a crawl in places.

With regards to the Radiator. Sadly atm i cant fit that radiator in to the case at the current dimensions, even if i shift the caddy over slightly. The only problem with the one you have suggested is that its twice as thick as the GTS.

Thanks to bringing it to my attention, i shall ask around see most of the feeling is the same. If it is i will probably switch. The one thing i dont want in my case is negative pressure and thats a lot worse then a hot case.

Will be doing a small update later tonight with some panel designs. As the power, reset and light switch will be on the side, im trying to work it into the side panel whilst not looking too tacky and out of place. Im currently messing around with the idea of knuckle dusters with 3 of the finger holes being replaced with switches. Will post them up when done to see what you guys think.

Thanks again

**Edit**

Just noticed that the Radiator you recommended is also a good 2cm taller aswell. Will most likely not go with that one cause of that, but will look round aswell. Might just scrap the rear exhaust so i can run it as it is, whilst avoiding the negative pressure problem.

You can scrap the front idea and mount the radiator on a 120mm mount on the back on the case like I did for my Antec 900. Of course, you'll need to add some rubber grommets to the back of the case, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Please don't thread hi-jack - Head Admin - Ric M

Small update for everyone.

Just messing around in sketchup on design possiblities for the side panel. My side panel will have 3 switches mounted on it.
- Power
- Reset
- Light Power

Im not sure whether or not to go for a more minimalistic side panel or to expand more on the project name on the side. Anyway here are the few designs ive mocked up just to get some ideas.



any feedback would be appreciatted

The-X:

Nice picture. I see what you mean, though why have you only got one fan? I always tryto keep upto date with SFF mods, especially concerning shuttles and one thing ive always disliked are additions to the outside of the case. I like all my things to be internal.

With respects to moving it to the back, i could mount it to the back, but i wanted at least dual 120mm rads so there was adequate cooling. I would still have to find space to find mount another. Side was out of the question as i didnt want a huge square of horrible rad just blocking a view to the internals, which only leaves the top or the front. Being that i wanted it internal i would of had to make the depth longer to accomodate the 120mm on the top, which means i would still have near enough the same footprint i have now but about 2-4mm saved on the overall depth.

I like the ones in the upper left and lower middle. They remind me of brass knuckles.

I only have one fan on there because my SlienX's are coming in the mail soon and I wanted to see how it would look mounted. To Ric, I wasn't thread hijacking, I was mearly showing him how I had it mounted. Another thing, I don't know if those motherboards will be compatable with a high end card from Nvidia because I remember reading somewhere that the 8800's take up the space of two PCI slots, if that's true than it could interfer with the capacitors right by the slots.

Are you getting the SilenX iXtremas by any chance? If so let me know what theyre like with the cfm>noise ratio. Ive been told on the SFFTech forums where this is also posted to look at the Noctuas as supposedly they have the better cfm > noise ratio.

The brass knuckle duster look was what i was trying to get. Thought it made it look different, whilst staying within the realms of the Project title. So far the majority of people like the upper left and lower middle. Though feel free to give me some more suggestions of how to incorporate the switches on the side.... im all ears.

Cheers for the heads up The-X. I shall contact portwell to see if this could be a problem. Though to be honest all the capacitors and bits and bobs to the right of expansion slots tend to be no higher than the expansion slot itself to avoid those kind of problems. From the look of the picture it doesnt seem like they will be a problem.

Ok, glad to help .

Well guys you know what time it is... yup its update time

Sadly this update has been a bit longer in the making, down to me being a bit busy and a bit lazy.

Thanks very much so far for all the comments everyone has left this project on the 9 forums that it is posted on. All the comments have been very favourable and a lot of people have said they will be keeping their eye on it That said, a few people have brought a few design ideas and a few faults to my design that i had either overlooked or just didnt notice.

Also with this update you will notice some more work on the theme and some additional ideas i have used. So without further ado, here are the pictures:


Not much has changed, though i am leaning towards the panel design that is on the side on this picture. Some of you will noticed something in the top left of the panel. I have decided to add a VFD/LCD display. I still might mount it top right though to hide away some of the cabling, but still have to do the mock up of it first.


On the back ive designed to allow for a 92mm Fan. I was going to scrap this but decided to add it back in to allow for increased airflow going through the case.

There was a worry about negative pressure due to the flow restriction caused by the GTS 240. Thankfully one of my friends has 2 240 radiators laying about, though not the same model but we strapped them together to take in account the flow restriction and placed a 92mm on the back, and it ran fine. No problems what so ever, so i am quite confident about this now. Though if i land up being wrong ill modify the side panel to allow some ventilation holes (which of course) will match the front to increase air intake into the case.


The PSU will have to be inserted into the case from the rear, where there will be a square cut hole which will allow for this. To fix the PSU to the case there will be a cut sheet of aluminium which will border the psu and will have screws going into the PSU and then into the case. This has been done before with a few mods, especially where the PSU sticks out a fair distance from the rear, and it looks and works fantastically. (Look at Project NLMby JegerJon to get some idea (fantastic mod))


Here is what the bare chassis will look like.


As you can see there will be a shroud that will fix the Radiator in place. This will be removable just as the HDD caddy will be. The Radiator shroud fixes to the right and bottom panels. This will also help brace the chassis to make it stronger.

You can see there are some modifications to the HDD Caddy. It has been made longer so that the case can be fixed to the right panel 2-4 times on each side. There are also struts that fix onto the PSU Caddy and the Radiator Shroud. This was to address a problem someone pointed out, that i overlooked. Originally the case was not going to be a tower, but a desktop, and the caddy was designed for that. Using it as a tower would change the change the positioning of the centre of gravity and could cause the right panel to bend/buckle. The struts were added in to help the load bearing of the Caddy so it could be distributed better over the entire case, whilst still being a removable caddy.


The PSU housing will be rivetted to the case as i will not need to remove this from the chassis. as mentioned with the Radiator Shroud and HDD Caddy, it will help brace the chassis to make it a stronger structure. There is a gap above the PSU. Im planning to put some ventilation holes up there as i dont want pockets of hot unventilated air within the case. Also it gives me the option later on to add a card readers or USB hub or anything quite thin in there. As i probably wont have the money to get a modular PSU straight away it will probably be used to put some of the cables i will not be using.

Regarding the overall theme im going to be having the internal metal components, so everything seen in the bare chassis pictures to be painted either Black or Silver. Im leaning towards black more as it will look better. Also from the front i dont want the v300b effect. With the v300b you have black case but silver internals which were visibile through the perforated grill (like i have at the front) I obviously dont want this to be the case in my case.... pun not intended

Anyway guys i hope you all like the pictures. Feel free to leave any comments or questions, as you all help me pickup on things i might of not noticed. Its always nice to have a 3rd opinion

Also some extra good news, ive just ordered my electric sander and jigsaw which cost me £13 for both brand new. Bargin if you ask me. I shall get a picture up of the tools when they and the bending brake arrive.

Until next time.

Your not going to have to worry about painting the stuff on the inside, the radiator should block all of it . And as for the pressure problem, I ment that the GTS reduces the pressure in your water cooling loop.

Really nice hard drive cage, Very cool looking case construction indeed . The whole mod has a very professional feel to it, I'm hooked, More please.

Well theres a gap down the side which would show some of it, but the radiator shroud and things at the front will need to be done. Im also thinking of doing the inside of the side panel aswell. Thing is as it uses a lot of clean lines i didnt want the inside to be a mishmash of silver and black, either one or the other.

Well pressure might be a problem but im looking for the most powerful pump i can get with the space that i will have.

Thanks for the comment Steel. To be honest i enjoy doing it and yeah i might persue it for a job aswell. It takes more time and youve got to be rather maticulous in the planning stages but its still fun as hell and i doubt i can ever hate this case after its been completed.